Hyo Jin Moon November 12, 2006

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Joe Kinney

Rev. Andrew Compton is the MC. All welcome Hyo Jin nim and offer a bow.

(Hyo Jin nim bows to the audience as he approaches the stage. He places a small notebook on the podium.)


We all want to be successful, right?

Let’s talk about success.

What is success? What do you consider success?

In America especially there are a lot of kids who graduate from Ivy League schools; by mid-twenties or late twenties a lot of people become millionaires. When you make a lot of money it does give you a lot of opportunity to move into things and do things that you want to do.

In the end success is defined by individuals. It is true because it connotes something that has to do with one’s career. Is success just based on your career? A career doesn’t have to last until the day you die; you can retire I guess. What’s today’s average retirement age, sixty? It used to be sixty-five but it’s going down right? Now it’s going back up again, but anyway something like that.

I guess the way that we should look at success; it should be about a lifetime. It’s one’s lifetime and you should define it as such, because the way that we look at Father is basically that. He’s a successful teacher. He’s a successful father of mankind, and because of His lifetime work we define His example as something to be revered. That’s what we’re trying to do; to commit our life to follow that kind of exemplary life. And He’s still moving on right? He didn’t retire yet. I don’t think He’s going to retire till the day He ascends to Heaven, that He dies.

So when I look at my Family model pretty much that’s how you define success in my family. I don’t know about other people, but it’s because of family tradition that’s what I have to accept. I could make my own definition of success. I could define it in my own way just like everybody else in a free society. But because of what I choose to accept that’s pretty much what defines success in my family. If you can’t do that, if you don’t have something that’s within you that you can make that kind of commitment you have the definition of success then you have no goal.

You feel Father is rich and owns a lot of land. "Oh if I acquire this land and that land this property and put it together I’ll have a billion dollar company." You can think like that statistically. You can think like that as if that is your right. But nobody in the world will recognize that as success. What success? That’s just privilege gone bad. That would be the reality. You can certainly do that….

If I do pray, and I rarely do, but if I do pray, I pray that "Father, you had a great start! I want your ending to be great as well." That’s what I want to see happen to Him. I want that to be the legacy. I don’t want anything to be changed as far as that is concerned. In order to do that, even in my own family, you really have to understand your Father’s course. It’s not that simple trying to care for other people. That’s a very difficult thing and making people believe as a generation goes forward, making that connection is very difficult. Even my father is having a hard time achieving that. That’s the reality. It’s not that simple.

And how do you even connect to your own generation. Where is your input? Where is your sacrifice? Do you sacrifice truly for the sake of belief or do you show sacrifice for the sake of show? What is it?

Then we should have politicians come and preach all the time in churches all around the world. Even in the secular world they try to distinguish between politicians and preachers right? Of course they both screw up all the time, but still there’s a distinction. One has to do with governing a society and one has to do with governing the hearts and minds of people, the soul of human kind. One is about the physicality more so and the other is about spirituality, right? That’s the basic difference.

And there’s this institution called education that tries to govern, tries to manage the mind of people, the intelligence of people.

I define success as people who give their lives to God. Wow! That is the ultimate success. There are many degrees of success. People see success in all sorts of ways, BUT THAT’S HOW I SEE IT! And how do I have to go about evaluating that success? How do I give my life to God? How does one give one’s life to God? Where does it start from?

Maybe you’re lucky if you just get zapped with the Holy Spirit. (Laughter) "I’ve changed. I just want to dedicate my life to God from now on." You’re lucky, but most people don’t. They do through all sorts of individual situations to make that determination. A lot of people do out of desperation as well. They’ve got no where else to turn so "I’ve got nothing so what the hell do I have to loose by turning my life over to God? Let him take care of my miserable situation." You can do that.

Most of you made choices, or are trying to make choices in that way because I see some young people here. People that are at my age and above you have no choice. That’s how you made it OK? (Laughter) That is how you’re going to die.

If you can do one thing by yourself and if you have groups of people who can work together for the sake of each other just following all the basic principles of goodness, I think we should try to encompass that first before you try to TAKE IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL, talking about messiah stuff, that we’re a better religion than yours stuff. I think that’s the first step. We should try to do that and help each other physically then on a larger scale then we can afford to take care of each other intellectually and expand the mind and then ultimately it’s up to you to connect to your spirit.